North Korea has had IT workers embedded in DeFi protocols since DeFi Summer — and they’re pretty good devs. Nick Bax, blockchain investigator and SEAL 911 incident responder, joins us to break down how crypto crime has evolved from SIM swaps to nation-state social engineering. We unpack the Monero inflation bug, Arbitrum’s 9/12 multisig gold standard, how DPRK workers now use facilitators to rent real identities, and what it actually takes to break into onchain investigation. Enjoy! __ TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Introduction 02:01 DeFi is Under Attack 03:11 Contagion Onchain 04:40 Nexo Ad 05:16 Nick Bax Interview 06:40 Incident Response Triage 08:43 Preemptive Due Diligence 10:20 From SIM Swaps To Remote Access 13:45 Multisig Best Practices 14:37 AI Speeds Up Attacks 15:36 Nexo Ad 17:14 Decentralization Tradeoffs 19:17 Monero Bug Hard Fork 20:05 Trusting Multisig Guardians 21:05 Two Of Five Risks 22:00 DeFi Decentralization Debate 23:41 Proactive Threat Hunting 25:25 DPRK Worker Red Flags 27:32 Security Teams And Intel 30:21 Thorchain And Laundering 33:26 Whack A Mole Reality 35:31 Becoming Onchain Investigator 37:06 Closing Thoughts FOLLOW GUEST › Nick Bax — https://x.com/bax1337 FOLLOW THE SHOW › David — https://x.com/dcanellis › The Breakdown — https://x.com/TheBreakdownBW SPONSORS › NEXO Nexo is the premier digital wealth platform. Receive interest on your crypto, borrow against it without selling, and trade a range of assets. Now available in the U.S with 30 days of exclusive privileges. Get started at http://nexo.com/breakdown Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to the Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ DISCLAIMER As always, remember this podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely their opinions, not financial advice.
How Crypto Is Fighting Back Against North Korea | The Breakdown
North Korea has had IT workers embedded in DeFi protocols since DeFi Summer — and they’re pretty good devs. Nick Bax, blockchain investigator and SEAL 911 incident responder, joins us to break down how crypto crime has evolved from SIM swaps to nation-state social engineering. We unpack the Monero inflation bug, Arbitrum’s 9/12 multisig gold standard, how DPRK workers now use facilitators to rent real identities, and what it actually takes to break into onchain investigation. Enjoy! __ TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Introduction 02:01 DeFi is Under Attack 03:11 Contagion Onchain 04:40 Nexo Ad 05:16 Nick Bax Interview 06:40 Incident Response Triage 08:43 Preemptive Due Diligence 10:20 From SIM Swaps To Remote Access 13:45 Multisig Best Practices 14:37 AI Speeds Up Attacks 15:36 Nexo Ad 17:14 Decentralization Tradeoffs 19:17 Monero Bug Hard Fork 20:05 Trusting Multisig Guardians 21:05 Two Of Five Risks 22:00 DeFi Decentralization Debate 23:41 Proactive Threat Hunting 25:25 DPRK Worker Red Flags 27:32 Security Teams And Intel 30:21 Thorchain And Laundering 33:26 Whack A Mole Reality 35:31 Becoming Onchain Investigator 37:06 Closing Thoughts FOLLOW GUEST › Nick Bax — https://x.com/bax1337 FOLLOW THE SHOW › David — https://x.com/dcanellis › The Breakdown — https://x.com/TheBreakdownBW SPONSORS › NEXO Nexo is the premier digital wealth platform. Receive interest on your crypto, borrow against it without selling, and trade a range of assets. Now available in the U.S with 30 days of exclusive privileges. Get started at http://nexo.com/breakdown Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to the Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ DISCLAIMER As always, remember this podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely their opinions, not financial advice.














